tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post7409876770022828392..comments2024-03-27T23:29:08.366-04:00Comments on Down Goes Brown: The Leafs/Canucks tampering case: Another fake NHL outrageDown Goes Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10150805735008417848noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-90586108027775463022009-07-12T21:08:04.996-04:002009-07-12T21:08:04.996-04:00If the Leafs weren't the most popular Canadian...If the Leafs weren't the most popular Canadian T.V. they wouldn't be shown as the early game on HNIC every week. It would be bad business otherwise. Numbers, and money, don't lie.Louienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-15693301998007330262009-07-10T17:32:39.253-04:002009-07-10T17:32:39.253-04:00Wow, Canuck fans and media sure love to WHARRRRRBB...Wow, Canuck fans and media sure love to WHARRRRRBBBBBBGGGGGGLLLLLLL!!!!!<br /><br />(sheesh, guys......)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17125982967144694926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-57798752112785008152009-07-10T14:23:16.086-04:002009-07-10T14:23:16.086-04:00Any idiot claiming any NHL team is the official on...Any idiot claiming any NHL team is the official one-and-only of whatever is just doing so to stir the pot. See the comments section of any NHL article on tsn.ca for a microcosm; by the 3rd post, the entire section will have degenerated into a cryfest collection of trashtalk failure without any reference to what the article was actually about. <br /><br />DGB bangs this home on the nail. These morons (and their equally insecure moron counterparts who are so easily 'outraged'), are not at all representative of the majority of any fanbase. When one asshat Leaf fan posts "OMG LOL UR TEEM SUX GOLEAFSGO" and 17 thousand Canuck fans go berzerk, you know there's a disconnect somewhere. I'd say this was more representative of how any 14 year old with an anonymous internet connection can wield a ridiculous amount of power these days.dmchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01523394273597323261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-5837359780044131202009-07-10T09:40:47.603-04:002009-07-10T09:40:47.603-04:00Mark Bell, anyone?Mark Bell, anyone?Cabernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-13096342213763216552009-07-10T08:55:21.780-04:002009-07-10T08:55:21.780-04:00My dad can beat up your dad.My dad can beat up your dad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-28642265387958868132009-07-10T08:32:32.338-04:002009-07-10T08:32:32.338-04:00Yes, anonymous, I'm pretty certain the league ...Yes, anonymous, I'm pretty certain the league would never,ever fine AND take a draft pick from the Leafs. I mean, first off, Burkie and Bettman are absolute BFF's, and there is simply NO precedent whatsoever for smacking Toronto harder than any team gets hit........kidkawarthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07333836912627161971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-29140839381817307162009-07-10T08:09:34.695-04:002009-07-10T08:09:34.695-04:00Just to note, an example from the NBA. I believe l...Just to note, an example from the NBA. I believe last year Phil Jackson mentioned Chris Bosh would look good in a Lakers uniform, and the NBA fined him. <br /><br />I see these two situations as pretty similar. I'd be shocked if anything more then a fine occured here...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-40500183927096594532009-07-10T04:49:25.830-04:002009-07-10T04:49:25.830-04:00To Jimmy P:
"Who said the Leafs are Canada&#...To Jimmy P:<br /><br />"Who said the Leafs are Canada's team?" you ask. I think it was in comment#11:<br /><br />Anonymous said...<br /> <br />Its not easy being a fan of the official team of Canada out here.<br /><br />July 9, 2009 12:15 AM<br /><br />Maybe try reading through the other comments in the thread before bashing someone and making accusations. Yes, I'm the annonymous poster that you felt so compelled to throw baseless and insulting attacks at ("Waaaa I'm insecure and need to bash Toronto because it is a cultural phenomenon").<br /><br />If "Leaf fans couldn't care less if the club is deemed 'Canada's team' and do not consider it to be the case", then why is it that a Leaf fan had to whine about how hard it is to be a fan of "the official team of Canada"? And you call me insecure...<br /><br />Look, I like Toronto: it's an exciting, vibrant city and I've had a lot of good times there and in Ontario. What I was commenting on was the idea, put forth by a Leafs fan, the the Toronto Maple Leafs are the offical Canadian national NHL franchise, and how that kind of thinking rubs a lot of people outside of the Leafs' market the wrong way (especially in markets that have their own NHL franchises). Furthermore, I was suggesting that the Maple Leafs don't have any kind of exclusive claims on being Canadian, ie: Canadian-sounding team name, symbols, et cetera.<br /><br />As to the accusations of insecurities, it seems like, at least in the comments in this discussion, it's the Leafs fans who are displaying any kind of insecurity--and I can't really blame them/you.<br /><br />I'm not denying that a lot of Canadians, outside of the Toronto area, hate the Leafs--especially in the West--I'm just not one of them. I'm pretty neutral. Well, it would be more honest to say that I really couldn't care less about the Leafs. I certainly don't hate the Leafs myself, I just wanted to offer an explanation as to why some people might be annoyed by claims of the Maple Leafs' official status as Canada's team. That alright with you, Jimmy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-48680131837870094592009-07-09T15:05:17.469-04:002009-07-09T15:05:17.469-04:00This is stupid. And not very "classy". ...This is stupid. And not very "classy". (another popular phrase now)selvighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12082755145841306365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-5420419831088847272009-07-09T13:35:05.086-04:002009-07-09T13:35:05.086-04:00Canucks deserve 2 first round picks cause they tam...Canucks deserve 2 first round picks cause they tampered with 2 players and 1 million in compensation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-2248611766723807572009-07-09T12:51:54.817-04:002009-07-09T12:51:54.817-04:00Thanks cfer. It's awfully annoying how it'...Thanks cfer. It's awfully annoying how it's almost trendy to hate the Leafs and anything Ontario! People that have never even been there think they know what they're talking about (and don't get me started on the drivers!).<br /><br />Non-hockey fans think the Leafs really do suck, because they heard it on the radio or their brother told them or some other uneducated reason. It really shouldn't bother me, but when you're inundated by it...<br /><br />Regardless, I can still proudly display my blue and white, and am probably an even bigger fan now than when I lived in Ontario! Must be thicker-skinned or something.Cabernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-23795122547915970222009-07-09T11:45:00.450-04:002009-07-09T11:45:00.450-04:00Caber, I've been in Calgary for five years, an...Caber, I've been in Calgary for five years, and I spent 7 years in Vancouver prior to that. I have to say that the hatred towards the Leafs is roughly 862 times worse in Vancouver than Calgary. Here people simply don't care about the Leafs, but in Vancouver "Leaf Hatred" is a respected profession. <br /><br />Maybe things are different in Edmonton since nobody wants to play there.CFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16130617593585370736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-41790197991747744102009-07-09T10:56:26.906-04:002009-07-09T10:56:26.906-04:00PPP - Canuck fans are insecure about everything. ...PPP - Canuck fans are insecure about <i>everything</i>. Not just the Leafs, but the Flames, Oilers, Sens, Canadiens, Avalanche, Stars, Lightning, Ducks, Kings, Rangers... well, you get the idea.<br /><br />There is no fan base on earth with an inferiority complex that can rival Vancouver.Resolutenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-7467467010351591702009-07-09T10:32:12.247-04:002009-07-09T10:32:12.247-04:00I've lived in Calgary since 2001 and promise y...I've lived in Calgary since 2001 and promise you that Albertans hate the Leafs more than their own provincial rivals.<br /><br />There is an aura about the team that falls into their "Eastern bias" thinking, consistent with media and politics (see "Bob Cole is a Leafs homer" and "TSN = Toronto Sports Network"). <br /><br />The classic arguments always centre around two points:<br />1 - I'm sick of watching them every Saturday. Like it's my fault and not CBC's. Besides, if you could broadcast the same product to 1 million people (Cal or Edm) or a bazillion people (Leaf nation), which would you pick from a business standpoint?<br />2 - They've sucked since 1967. Irrelevant are the 4 conf finals in 10 years, while both AB teams were golfing and the red one was one Sutter away from losing their team. <br /><br />DGB, I challenge you to compare the points/standings for the Leafs over the last 20 seasons (last time an AB team won the Cup), like we've seen recently with the Habs, against the Shames and Soilers. <br /><br />(Footnote: I cheer for the Oilers, because it keeps me married)<br /><br />Thanks guys, this is alwasys a popular discussion for me. Any time I get hassled by a western hockey fan about the Leafs I just stop them with "I've heard them all", then proceed to recite to them the brilliantly eloquent cut-up I was about to receive. Shuts them up every time.<br /><br />Cheers.Cabernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-9680086904136131682009-07-09T10:00:45.172-04:002009-07-09T10:00:45.172-04:00I don't think it has as much to do with nation...I don't think it has as much to do with nationalism as it does with the fact that outside Quebec, Leaf games always preempt the rest of the Canadian teams on the CBC. I imagine I'd be similarly annoyed if I were in their shoes, though I like to think I'd be more of an adult about it than so many of them are.Ryannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-35092401912338963772009-07-09T09:03:11.305-04:002009-07-09T09:03:11.305-04:00Who says the Leafs are Canada's team?
Anonym...Who says the Leafs are Canada's team? <br /><br />Anonymous said: "Most Canadians, outside of Greater Toronto, understand this fact and many would find the idea of forcing the Leafs on an entire nation quite distasteful."<br /><br />Waaaa I'm insecure and need to bash Toronto because it is a cultural phenomenon.<br /><br />Blame CBC. Blame your insecurity. I can assure Leaf fans couldn't care less if the club is deemed "Canada's team" and do not consider it to be the case. <br />When the Leafs when the cup free to close your garage on suck on your tailpipe.JimmyPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-4996650312382497882009-07-09T03:13:54.208-04:002009-07-09T03:13:54.208-04:00Re: RobViper13 and Ohlund: It's my understandi...Re: RobViper13 and Ohlund: It's my understanding that NHL teams can begin negotiating with free agents at 12:01 AM EST on July 1st, they just can't physically sign a deal until after 12 o'clock noon, so there's actually 12 hours there to work out a contract.<br /><br />Re: a couple of the Anonymous comments: Probably part of what Vancouver fans don't like about Toronto is this idea that the Leafs are the supposed "official team of Canada". Does being named the Maple Leafs and having a national symbol on the jersey really count for that much? We've also got the Canadiens, the Canucks, and even Calgary has a Canadian flag on the shoulder patch of their new jerseys, so why would the Leafs be Canada's team? All the Canadian NHL clubs are, in fact, regional teams and not one of them is our national NHL franchise. Most Canadians, outside of Greater Toronto, understand this fact and many would find the idea of forcing the Leafs on an entire nation quite distasteful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-43077974544226246782009-07-09T00:58:55.687-04:002009-07-09T00:58:55.687-04:00I still don't get it. What exactly have the Le...I still don't get it. What exactly have the Leafs done that completely inconvenienced Canuck fans personally for the remained of their god forsaken lives. DGB? PPP? Viper? Do you happen to have an answer within your awesome minds?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-32310669045197114852009-07-09T00:15:27.526-04:002009-07-09T00:15:27.526-04:00I moved out to Vancouver from Toronto in 2005 and ...I moved out to Vancouver from Toronto in 2005 and cannot begin to fathom the level of animosity for anything Hogtown out here. <br /><br />PPP is right on, Canuck fans always say to me "we like to hate the Leafs more than we like to cheer the Canucks"<br /><br />Its not easy being a fan of the official team of Canada out here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-60994462864329904552009-07-08T23:56:04.119-04:002009-07-08T23:56:04.119-04:00There's no rule that says you have to embarass...<i>There's no rule that says you have to embarass yourself as you play along.</i><br /><br />Don't know how you missed it but rule # 1 in the Vancouver Canucks Fans' Manual demands that they be insecure about anything involving the Leafs.Pension Plan Puppetshttp://www.pensionplanpuppets.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-47745832056792424032009-07-08T23:36:46.281-04:002009-07-08T23:36:46.281-04:00In the sake of fairness to 'The Province',...In the sake of fairness to 'The Province', this article was pointed out to me on a different site:<br /><br />http://www.faceoff.com/hockey/nhlnews/story.html?id=694632eb-30f5-473b-970d-ee869f183785Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-64774480911034754512009-07-08T22:39:12.047-04:002009-07-08T22:39:12.047-04:00very well said DGB. i couldn't agree more.
a...very well said DGB. i couldn't agree more.<br /><br />also, props to RobViper. good call.the Surreal McCoynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-12811694863297558232009-07-08T22:28:24.557-04:002009-07-08T22:28:24.557-04:00Mmmm, Chalet sauce...Mmmm, Chalet sauce...Cabernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-31776569773814820772009-07-08T21:49:56.762-04:002009-07-08T21:49:56.762-04:00We just want a crack at Taylor Hall. :)We just want a crack at Taylor Hall. :)J.J.http://canuckshockeyblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-29412387572142677192009-07-08T21:42:55.538-04:002009-07-08T21:42:55.538-04:00Am I the only one who thinks the whole concept of ...Am I the only one who thinks the whole concept of tampering rules is retarded? Wouldn't it be better for competitive balance if every GM had to contend with the fact that the players he's trying to re-sign have a good idea of what they can get on the open market? I thought the purpose of the salary cap was to keep "have" teams from having rights to the top players in perpetuity. Don't tampering rules put up an arbitrary obstacle to that?Ryannoreply@blogger.com