tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post4587205119576987242..comments2024-03-27T23:29:08.366-04:00Comments on Down Goes Brown: Burke can't lose his nerve nowDown Goes Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10150805735008417848noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-34601618476707433192009-03-03T12:28:00.000-05:002009-03-03T12:28:00.000-05:00Great post, love the framework, this is eatly how ...Great post, love the framework, this is eatly how to think about these things.<BR/><BR/>re Moore: Thats my only disagreement, with a number of caveats. I actually think his success has come from buying into the Wilson system, work ethic and actually believing in the Bue and White, and not just mouthing the words.<BR/><BR/>So I think he is "culturally" part of the future...he is still a third line guy, but a real good one under Wilson and in Toronto.<BR/><BR/>Now he is NOT worth 3 mill a year or even 2 mill a year. So if he is demanding those numbers then I think a trade is fine, he can sign again when his contract is up after a stint with another team and a drop in production.<BR/><BR/>White, has played well...but a 2nd rounder might be too little for him. Tough call, I think the locker room intangibles will make the call, does he buy into the system, is his work ethic great, can he be a positive example, unlike some Leafs who are no longer here...Tucker, McCabe, Raycroft....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-45428889149073141322009-03-03T11:16:00.000-05:002009-03-03T11:16:00.000-05:00Paul Hunter in the Sun is saying that Burke & ...Paul Hunter in the Sun is saying that Burke & Moore are still $1 mill apart and that Moore could get $3 mill on the open market this summer.<BR/>Bye, bye Dominic. <BR/>Aside from him, I think Antropov will go, but after that I'll be very surprised if there's much other movement. I agree that Kubina looks like he'll be a goner in the summer, but there just doesn't seem to be a market out there for what the Leafs can offer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-66205552476343898192009-03-03T10:44:00.000-05:002009-03-03T10:44:00.000-05:00I too am concerned about the direction that he may...I too am concerned about the direction that he may take.<BR/><BR/>I remember the Leafs winning the cup. I have lived through the Ballard years and all of the stupidity that was prevalent at the time.<BR/><BR/>I was a rabid Leaf fan, an 82 gamer. I would jump up from the couch and cheer every goal. I would refuse to watch any Ottawa game not involving the Leafs for fear that it would somehow help them. I missed the finals against Anaheim because the mere sight of those turds would make me nauseous.<BR/><BR/>And then Richard Peddie and JFJ came along and clubbed me like a baby seal. They made me no longer care.<BR/><BR/>A team that took no crap from anyone morphed into a submissive collection of misfits. A team that did more flybys than the Snowbirds. If I had to watch one more Alex Steen backwards ass check I would have screamed.<BR/><BR/>But I digress.<BR/><BR/>It has come to this. I need hope. I need someone to come along and remake this team. We had a real opportunity to get the first or second overall pick this year and we are blowing it. Blake should have been sent to the minors for "conditioning" as soon as he got hot, Cujo should be in net every night.<BR/><BR/>I am tired of everyone on this team not named Schenn or Moore. Do what is necessary and if we have to ice the Louisiana friggin' Mud Bugs on Thursday then so be it. Change is long overdue. I want to be excited again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-48046859821334213372009-03-03T09:50:00.000-05:002009-03-03T09:50:00.000-05:00People tend to forget how quickly teams can go fro...People tend to forget how quickly teams can go from being completely crappy to competing for the cup.<BR/>Look at Montreal, Buffalo, Boston, Carolina, Chicago and so on.<BR/>Basically you have a few years where you suck but your players are developing, then you have a year where everyone gets better and you end up fighting for a playoff spot, then the next year you have 5-7 players make significant improvements, the team realizes that they're actually good and all of the sudden they can compete with anyone.<BR/>It may happen soon for Toronto or it might not but all they need is good goaltending for a season or two, some sudden development from Schenn, Grabovski, Hagman, Kulumenin...<BR/>If they don't screw it up and get a touch of luck they could be competing for the cup in two years.Ben Dugashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12989972302643514645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-75878366675146790442009-03-03T09:16:00.000-05:002009-03-03T09:16:00.000-05:00Blake 3:16Blake 3:16JD.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08046464201505570911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-72592106552086597702009-03-03T08:46:00.000-05:002009-03-03T08:46:00.000-05:00I hope the Devils expose the Leafs defensively ton...I hope the Devils expose the Leafs defensively tonight and absolutely crush them and this ridiculous winning streak. This is a bad team....don't drink the kool-aid Burke.<BR/><BR/>While I don't expect a dozen trades I'd like to see a half dozen bodies moved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-69078738987157586022009-03-03T07:21:00.000-05:002009-03-03T07:21:00.000-05:00I wonder if Burke has gone too far in his comments...I wonder if Burke has gone too far in his comments lately. <BR/><BR/>He has been widely quoted as saying that NHL GM's are stupid around the trade deadline because they overpay for players that don't help them. <BR/><BR/>Then he pretty much says he has turned down every trade offered to him because he wasn't offered enough. <BR/><BR/>So Burke's message to the rest of his GM bretheren is basically this: I am going to squeeze you for every last drop because you are all idiots. <BR/><BR/>Now any other GM who makes a deal with the Leafs knows that he will be overpaying if he chooses to make a deal with Burke. <BR/><BR/>At the same time if Burke decides to wait till the summer he knows he won't be able to get as much as he could at the trade deadline. If he doesn't make deals by tomorrow he will find himself getting worse offers thane he is getting now. <BR/><BR/>High stakes poker if you ask me. He better hope the other guy blinks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-4162083322929700882009-03-02T23:28:00.000-05:002009-03-02T23:28:00.000-05:00DGB - we may have been hearing about the cap limit...DGB - we may have been hearing about the cap limiting trades for years, but I think the economic downturn is the catalyst that will finally make this prognostication a reality.<BR/><BR/>There could still be 25+ trades on deadline day, but I think it will be almost exclusively spare parts and pending UFAs that change jerseys. <BR/><BR/>Of course, I also thought Dallas was going to be the team to beat this year...MF37https://www.blogger.com/profile/10238252282255067686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-70568653182314316602009-03-02T22:57:00.000-05:002009-03-02T22:57:00.000-05:00Blake rules.And not trading White for a late 2nd r...Blake rules.<BR/><BR/>And not trading White for a late 2nd rounder is a great move on Burke's part. White's clearly proven that he can play. He's young. He makes little money. Yet people in this town want to deal him for a chance to draft some kid. I mean, how is it that our drafting resume has not deterred fans from feeling this way? <BR/><BR/>I don't get it.<BR/><BR/>Playoffs.Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08445618400360263938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-45556759399597149422009-03-02T22:48:00.000-05:002009-03-02T22:48:00.000-05:00@Anonymous: Just to be clear, I never said we shou...@Anonymous: Just to be clear, I never said we should keep Blake. I just flip-flopped from "there's no way we could ever get rid of him" all the way over to "we might be able to get something good for him".Down Goes Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10150805735008417848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-58416036137662519782009-03-02T22:42:00.000-05:002009-03-02T22:42:00.000-05:00@MF37... But haven't we been hearing that since th...@MF37... But haven't we been hearing that since the lockout? And yet every year, we end up seeing a record number of deals.<BR/><BR/>Maybe the economy throws a wrench in everything this year. If so, Burke can only do so much. But if the rest of the league stays active then he should be leading the way.Down Goes Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10150805735008417848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-41683978830698401862009-03-02T22:41:00.000-05:002009-03-02T22:41:00.000-05:00Looks like Mr. Brown has finally given up his "kee...Looks like Mr. Brown has finally given up his "keep Blake" bull doody idear and seen the light. If we can trade anyone of these "players" away Burke should. Its a lot easier to build a team through picks, prospects and free agents nowadaysAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-89604061111116264322009-03-02T22:06:00.000-05:002009-03-02T22:06:00.000-05:00I'm a little disappointed that White wasn't shippe...I'm a little disappointed that White wasn't shipped out for that late 2nd, if it was in fact true. White is an ok player, but we do have some numbers on D, and a 45-60 pick could produce some real quality. To me, White is another one whose value is quite high, and the trigger probably should have been pulled.Deanzillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16323357080128678620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-36477397354091754122009-03-02T21:32:00.000-05:002009-03-02T21:32:00.000-05:00I wouldn't be surprised if Antro is the only body ...I wouldn't be surprised if Antro is the only body shipped out of town. <BR/><BR/>Rather than a loss of nerve, with so many teams up against the cap, and the cap all but certain to constrict over the next few seasons, it's going to be difficult for Burke to find trade partners.MF37https://www.blogger.com/profile/10238252282255067686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-76253589557557880332009-03-02T21:24:00.000-05:002009-03-02T21:24:00.000-05:00@James -- That is without question a new DGB recor...@James -- That is without question a new DGB record for fastest comment on a new post.Down Goes Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10150805735008417848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202653898886981.post-91872944153035739082009-03-02T21:22:00.000-05:002009-03-02T21:22:00.000-05:00I sure hope he does stay the course. If he dosn't ...I sure hope he does stay the course. If he dosn't break this team up i'll be buy a Habs shirt next week. I can't take any more. 43 years is enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com